I don't know who originally hit prt sc for this pic and uploaded this but credits go to that person.
This picture can pass as a movie poster for a horror flick let's say The Grudge? Whacha think Carl Choi?Anyway, most people in forums know that I adore Michelle Phan, I love her and I like her make up vids. I didn't started following her or known of Michelle's existence until late '08/early '09. Yeah. I live under a rock that I didn't know that there are make up tutorials on youtube as I only go on yt mainly to watch cover songs and learn how to play the guitar. I became an instant follower of Michelle. Michelle's videos shows this down to earth individual who was once dreaming and now starting to live it, she seems bubbly and friendly too and her videos are calming with soothing musics and her lullaby like voice over. What made me admire her more was when I googled her and found out they used to be poor. Why? She has big dreams and being poor didn't stop her from being an inspiration to all.
I remember having this conversation with one of the women from a forum(I chose women than referring to her as a girl coz most of the people in this forum are professionals and so is this woman) coz we were talking about gurus on youtube and I am not quite sure how it started but I mentioned Michelle was down and out growing up and this poster quoted me saying Michelle was never poor coz MP's mom is a dermatologist and her mom's profession is considered as one of those who makes more moolah. Initially as a fan, I defended Michelle saying someone told me of the fact and I've seen her profile myself so in the end we just concluded that maybe they were poor (but not bankrupt) after the divorce coz divorce are both physically and financially straining for everyone who's going through it.
Something just poofed happened about a week ago, I was on facebook and one of my friends who happened to be a Michelle Phan's fan sent me a link about this gossip guru forum and there's a thread there that you can freely trash a guru and the link she sent was the thread linking to Michelle Phan. The first page my friend sent me was 40 pages long!! craaap!! I spent half of my day reading the thread (lulz, what you'll call life eh? haha) The thread isn't just about rumors ya know, they have proof! they have evidences of Michelle lying to everyone's faces.
My blog post is really getting long isn't it? pwuahaha
I am not gonna bash Michelle here for being short and a girl with thunder thighs (as what the forumers describe her as lol!). I am short and I have thunder thighs as well, at least I don't get paid by lying, I am a student and I have a part time job. :D
And this is the part where I'll start expressing my disappointment point per point. Again, it's because of Michelle's non stop lying, I am not gonna diss her because of her thunder thighs.
ANIMALS
I remember seeing Mr. BunBun (her rabbit to those of you who don't know) in some of her vids and thru stalking the forum, I found out that Mr. BunBun died already. The big deal? Michelle lied about it, she said Mr. BunBun is recovering (I think Mr. BunBun had kidney infections?sorry I don't remember exactly) and is doing well. Why did she lie about it?It's because the very next day, Michelle is going to Disneyland and she prolly doesn't want people questioning her way of "mourning". MP's pet died the night before and everyone is well aware of the genuineness love Michelle has for her animals so if your beloved pet died you mourn, you don't go to Disneyland, have fun and shoot for a theme park make up tutorial the very next day when you're supposed to be sad. Everyone is also wondering what happened to her other pets as well.
I think Michelle should really write her lies down so when someone ask her about certain things her answers would all be the same.
ABOUT HER BEING POOR
Now, I think she lied about her social status so she can get sympathy and more people will like her. About her growing up poor was one of the reasons why I loved her. I've said it earlier that her being poor didn't stop her from living her dreams when some poor people just stop wishing and dreaming. When she said they used to live on food stamps, I've seen evidences (print screened) of Michelle and her brother's brand new cars, Michelle's expensive La Mer cream ($130 1oz, $230 2oz and $1,390 for 16.5oz). If you're poor and living on food stamps how can your family afford to buy you and your brother brand new cars to drive?and your expensive face and eye cream?and your branded shoes, clothes and purses?If Michelle was helping her mom pay their bills and helping her brother too why did she moved out and moved in, into this nice cozy apartment?
From Michelle's xanga, she blogged how she loathe materialistic rich people, so that means she hates herself coz she's also equally materialistic?
RELIGION
She said she's a christian but her ways aren't christian like. This what irks me as well or probably the most! When someone like Michelle rub into people's faces that they are religious and yet contradicting themselves by constantly lying?not giving credits to where it's due?plagiarizing in short. I am not sure if Christians just like us Catholics have 10 commandments?But whatever the case is, It's still wrong to put the name of the Lord God in vain Michelle.
You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
And who gets baptized wearing this?
credits again to the person who found this picture and uploaded it in the forum and I'm sorry I had to resize the picture so it'll fit in my page.
credits again to the person who found this picture and uploaded it in the forum and I'm sorry I had to resize the picture so it'll fit in my page.
I am just so disappointed with Michelle Phan and her lies and more lies to cover up her previous BS.
MISLEADING
Michelle always misleads people with her tweets and her replies and if she gets called out on, she'll be so defensive and try to conceal that lie with another lie. And I'm telling you just like most especially her recent vids, Michelle is not good in concealing her dark circles and so are her lies. I am not perfect with grammar but I surely know what MY/MINE means. Michelle doesn't give credits and when she used MY in describing the bookshelf picture she uploaded on twitter, people assumed it's hers. by MY or MINE means you own it. Then there goes Michelle again with her usual BS cover up.
As of this day, I am considering myself as an ex-fan of Michelle, and she'll gain my trust and respect again once she comes clean about all her issues, and not to tell more lies to cover her being untruthful.
Michelle, you better stop lying now girl while you're still up there or consequences will never be the same. And yes this is prolly be what it's gonna be like once Michelle is cornered and can't get herself out of her lies.
MISLEADING
Michelle always misleads people with her tweets and her replies and if she gets called out on, she'll be so defensive and try to conceal that lie with another lie. And I'm telling you just like most especially her recent vids, Michelle is not good in concealing her dark circles and so are her lies. I am not perfect with grammar but I surely know what MY/MINE means. Michelle doesn't give credits and when she used MY in describing the bookshelf picture she uploaded on twitter, people assumed it's hers. by MY or MINE means you own it. Then there goes Michelle again with her usual BS cover up.
As of this day, I am considering myself as an ex-fan of Michelle, and she'll gain my trust and respect again once she comes clean about all her issues, and not to tell more lies to cover her being untruthful.
Michelle, you better stop lying now girl while you're still up there or consequences will never be the same. And yes this is prolly be what it's gonna be like once Michelle is cornered and can't get herself out of her lies.
and Carl Choi being the angry bf will use his money to pay the cyber police so they can back trace Michelle's haters or "ghosts".
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wow, i totally didn't know these. i've heard of michelle phan through my sister who likes watching her makeup vids on youtube. that really sucks.
<3, Mimi
http://whatmimiwrites.blogspot.com/
I know! I was in denial and heartbroken when I first read all about it and seen all the evidences that Michelle had indeed and still lying about a lot of stuff.
I'm not going to say who I am - quite frankly I don't even register on the RADAR with her even though we both work in the same industry and she was just in my state recently for fashion week. FYI. I watched her grow up a little and I was NEVER good enough for her; but long story short I know her. (I digress - to be quite honest I'm a 100 times better than than I was back then because SHE made me want to be a better person.) As incriminating as all the gossip that EVER appears about her - I PROBABLY know the most DAMAGING and HURTFUL things about her past that some of her family members are unaware of. That's just because I'm empathetic. I work in an industry that requires me to have a 6 pack and to understand web analytics from user profiles and social media BT. Unfortunately for the haters... I won't be bashing her here. Just the opposite. Michelle grew up semi wealthy with a step father BUT her mother never had much. The term "dermatologist" is not entirely accurate. Her mother worked at beauty salons while trying to better herself and her daughter's life with education. Before her mother remarried her REAL FATHER made some financial mistakes being addicted to gambling and what not. (He's recovered nicely and owns his own floor sanding business.) They DID live poor for a bit till her mother remarried. As for her personality, I suspect she isn't the same humble person that she was before. But how many people are humble for the actual sake of being humble. I get volunteers at some of my charities and high school kids in and out of my projects that are only trying to log in hours. She isn't ENTIRELY materialistic but she isn't stuck up either. Trust me; have HAD models that annoy the hell out of me when they tell me not to tip a waitress because she doesn't look good enough.
Point I'm trying to make is that she's just a regular person that's trying to be the best positive role model she can be while living her own life. My only caveat to people criticizing her is that no one really knows how hard her life was. For those individuals that do know, I think she'd surprise you with some things she has been through still. Just let it go. Understanding someone intimately is like waking up to them in the morning and learning how to be completely comfortable with them despite the flaws, embarrassing moments, and imperfections; it's an intimate experience that's shallow when shared with the entire world. Hard to really KNOW & JUDGE what someone is thinking or feeling unless you KNOW them.
I'm not going to say who I am - quite frankly I don't even register on the RADAR with her even though we both work in the same industry and she was just in my state recently for fashion week. FYI. I watched her grow up a little and I was NEVER good enough for her; but long story short I know her. (I digress - to be quite honest I'm a 100 times better than than I was back then because SHE made me want to be a better person.) As incriminating as all the gossip that EVER appears about her - I PROBABLY know the most DAMAGING and HURTFUL things about her past that some of her family members are unaware of. That's just because I'm empathetic. I work in an industry that requires me to have a 6 pack and to understand web analytics from user profiles and social media BT. Unfortunately for the haters... I won't be bashing her here. Just the opposite.
Michelle grew up semi wealthy with a step father BUT her mother never had much. The term "dermatologist" is not entirely accurate. Her mother worked at beauty salons while trying to better herself and her daughter's life with education. Before her mother remarried her REAL FATHER made some financial mistakes being addicted to gambling and what not. (He's recovered nicely and owns his own floor sanding business.) They DID live poor for a bit till her mother remarried. As for her personality, I suspect she isn't the same humble person that she was before. But how many people are humble for the actual sake of being humble. I get volunteers at some of my charities and high school kids in and out of my projects that are only trying to log in hours. She isn't ENTIRELY materialistic but she isn't stuck up either. Trust me; have HAD models that annoy the hell out of me when they tell me not to tip a waitress because she doesn't look good enough.
Point I'm trying to make is that she's just a regular person that's trying to be the best positive role model she can be while living her own life. My only caveat to people criticizing her is that no one really knows how hard her life was. For those individuals that do know, I think she'd surprise you with some things she has been through still. Just let it go. Understanding someone intimately is like waking up to them in the morning and learning how to be completely comfortable with them despite the flaws, embarrassing moments, and imperfections; it's an intimate experience that's shallow when shared with the entire world. Hard to really KNOW & JUDGE what someone is thinking or feeling unless you KNOW them.
@ Cao Cow: thank you for the input and here's my reply to you
http://www.gurugossip.net/michelle-phan-f13/official-anything-michelle-phan-thread-part-5-t1529-325.htm#30024
if that is true then what's wrong with that..its showbiz nothin is real in this industry admit it...as long as she entertained her fans she will just be loved moere...
she is just good with it and that makes him famous..i am no michelle's fan but its human nature everyone of us have something under our sleeve's no one is perfect..
geez religious stuff should nothing to do with this...
you have fill out my boring part of the day and that entertain me for a while tnx for that but hate blog or threads are not always my type..
@ bangs: what's wrong with her non stop lying?because it's called misleading her fans, making a fool all out of us. Not giving credits to where it's due and yes, plagiarism is ILLEGAL. Showbiz people do give credits too to where it's due, why not Michelle Phan? And it's down right pathetic that she says she's a Christian but her ways aren't very Christian like.
you're right, religion should not be dragged in this mess but hello?Michelle was the one who brought the topic up. It is a slap on every Christians that practices the religion with respect and what does Michelle do?Making fun of God and using GOD to get more "fans".
and this isn't a HATE blog, coz if it is, I wouldn't care to choose the right words correctly to express my DISAPPOINTMENT (get a dictionary so you'll know the difference between HATE and DISAPPOINTMENT) and just go on bash Michelle Phan. The things I wrote here are not out of HATE my dear bangs, it's out of DISAPPOINTMENT and if you've seen/read the forum then you'll know that they have proofs of all of Michelle's BS.
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P.S
Michelle is a HER. I seriously lol-ed at your "she is just good with it and that makes HIM famous."
I've been reading Gurugossip lately but didn't spend whole day on it. Most of the things there aren't facts but twisted truth. No one actually knows the truth itself. I think that most of people on GG and here on your blog just want to bash her out of jealousy, nothing more then that. She is regular girl who did something with her life. We can agree or disagree with it, but she did it. Even if she didn't cry out loud because her pat died, so what? Should she have stayed at home crying and making him a funeral? Please! I have pat and I don't want her to die, but when she will die, my world won't stop spinning. She is an animal, not a human. Michelle never said she was completely poor, but what she said was that her family had trouble with financies cause of her father's gambling problem. That isn't lie, and those things came out after she became a name on YT, so she didn't have need for that, but people as you were picking trough her life and wanted to know more about her ( not having their own life ) so things came out pretty twisted.
About her religion. Do you know who Cuhck Smith is? If you don't, google it. Back in 1990, he was baptizing people in Ocean, girls were in bikines and guys were in shorts. Should we judge their honesty by that? I think not. Michelle is 15 years old on this photo, stop criticizing her for something others do as well.
When you want to hate someone, you will find thousands of mistakes and point on it.
Of course she defends herself on Twitter or Facebook. You are not the only one bashing her. Gurugossip is full of crap about her and others.
So please, don't make full of yourself writing something like this. You don't know the facts unless you see them with your own eyes and hear with your own ears.
She did something with her life, what did you do except for the reading GG half of a day? Do something with your life, become well known and than come and tell the truth here: is it easy living under the loop? Nope. I know it was is her choice, but also, all of you haters want the same.
By the way, English is not my native and I probably made lots of mistakes, but I also believe I made my point.
P.S Who are you to criticize her Christianity? Are you Christian? If you are, didn't they teach you in Church this is sin what you are doing? If you are not Christian, how dare you criticizing something you know nothing about?
I've been reading Gurugossip lately but didn't spend whole day on it. Most of the things there aren't facts but twisted truth. No one actually knows the truth itself. I think that most of people on GG and here on your blog just want to bash her out of jealousy, nothing more then that. She is regular girl who did something with her life. We can agree or disagree with it, but she did it. Even if she didn't cry out loud because her pat died, so what? Should she have stayed at home crying and making him a funeral? Please! I have pat and I don't want her to die, but when she will die, my world won't stop spinning. She is an animal, not a human. Michelle never said she was completely poor, but what she said was that her family had trouble with financies cause of her father's gambling problem. That isn't lie, and those things came out after she became a name on YT, so she didn't have need for that, but people as you were picking trough her life and wanted to know more about her ( not having their own life ) so things came out pretty twisted.
About her religion. Do you know who Cuhck Smith is? If you don't, google it. Back in 1990, he was baptizing people in Ocean, girls were in bikines and guys were in shorts. Should we judge their honesty by that? I think not. Michelle is 15 years old on this photo, stop criticizing her for something others do as well.
When you want to hate someone, you will find thousands of mistakes and point on it.
Of course she defends herself on Twitter or Facebook. You are not the only one bashing her.
So please, don't make full of yourself writing something like this. You don't know the facts unless you see them with your own eyes and hear with your own ears.
She did something with her life, what did you do except for the reading GG half of a day? Do something with your life, become well known and than come and tell the truth here: is it easy living under the loop? Nope. I know it was is her choice, but also, all of you haters want the same.
By the way, English is not my native and I probably made lots of mistakes, but I also believe I made my point.
P.S Who are you to criticize her Christianity? Are you Christian? If you are, didn't they teach you in Church this is sin what you are doing? If you are not Christian, how dare you criticizing something you know nothing about?
@ Lilith : thank you for putting your thoughts in but I do have 2 suggestions for you.
1. on your free time or even maybe at least half an hour a day (until you catches up) read the GG thread about Michelle Phan and you'll see that the evidences provided in there are not "twisted truth", coz those were straight from Michelle Phan's mouth/twitter and facebook. So as long as the evidences are SOLID, then it is called a FACT.
2. Just read this entry
http://gurugossip.omgforum.net/michelle-phan-f13/to-michelle-s-loyal-supporters-please-read-t1426.htm?highlight=michelle+phan
Michelle DID say tho and even said on some of the articles written for her how her family used to live on food stamps -- living on food stamps meant you're POOR! Google is your friend my dear, use it!
about her pet who died, we didn't ask of her to cry out loud and make a video of it and upload it on youtube. Michelle Phan actually LIED about the death of mr. bunbun it was only a month ago or 2 when Michelle came forward and admitted on blogTV that mr. bunbun is dead. She also lied about her other pets too.
I am aware that some people do get baptized naked or in a bikini, but do they pose it online?NO! I am not a religious person, but I believe in God. I don't go around and tell people how much of a Christian I am but do unholy acts. What exactly are those?just like what Michelle is doing, she lie all the time, she brags, she cheats her fans by misleading them.
You missed the point again, like I said in this entry, "I am writing this out of disappointment". I do have a life, when I said that I spent half of my day reading GG, that was because I have nothing left to do, and instead of sleeping or picking my nose, I chose to read the forum.
Yeah i thought something wasnt right about little miss sugar and spice too...
I noticed it mainly when she said she is a christian and she loves animals and all that stuff... but she is desperate to be seen working for lancome who are well known for testing products on animals.
Her makeup tutorials are good but unfortunately chances are that she is just a fake like the rest of the world :( as much as it sucks.. and no for all you nubish little people thinking
"Ugh don't hate my goddess michelle, your just hating" suck it up.
WHOAH!! FINALLY!! someone came here and didn't tell me I'm just jealous of Michelle Phan lol! it isn't about people agreeing on what I've and other people had said/pointed out. It's about more and more people are finally seeing the truth!
evidences don't lie.
Damn Michelle, I am a Christian too. What she wore during her baptism is deeply unacceptable. You're such a shame to our Asian race.
I'm also an ex-fan of MP. God. I was deceived.
@ Alluringsky: we we're all deceived at some point. tsk!
I have her added on Facebook. I tried to post a picture of her because she was featured in a Nylon magazine and I had a scan of it. She IMMEDIATELY DELETED the picture. WTF? It was nothing offensive nor insulting.
*english is not my native language, sorry for my grammar*
i understand that you wrote this blog out your disappointment, but have you even consider what kind of people on gurugossip are? you SEEM like you really follow Catholicism. Im a christian. im not a huge fan of MP but i did watched her videos and like you, they inspired me to look more beautiful. but unlike others, i never idolized her, i never cared about her personal life. I ONLY CARED ABOUT THE ART OF PUTTING MAKE-UP.. which is the main purpose of her making videos.
How did she fool you guys? she was just giving advice of how to put colors on your face and giving some tips about skin care. why do you guys feel like she lied bigtime on all of you. you guys were never friends nor know each other in real life. Its funny how people over react on someone's life whom they never met personally.
about Christianity.. u know whats different about Catholics and Christians? its because Christians believe they are already saved once they accept Christ as their savior and follow Christ's ways(Romans 3:23). as far as i know, catholic still believe that they still have to go to a priest to confess their sins. How did she use the name of the Lord in vain? She said she is a Christian but i never noticed her using the name of the Lord. I've seen her encouraging people to attend a Church concert. I also saw her encouraging people to join for a cause on a charity activities. and how can you be so sure that that girl on the picture is really michelle phan? come on, we cant deny that some people have look a likes... I dont know.. but one thing is for sure.. those people on gurugossip keeps on poisoning people's mind. a supposed to be make-up tutorial guru ends up being a hate target diva.
Idolization that causes us to create a false sense of dependency and places an irrational and unnatural emphasis on the person, place or thing can be dangerous. Look at them.. they hate her because they felt that she lied on them, even though she dont know them...
@ Titty: I think Michelle are becoming more and more paranoid each day about what people post write for a comment on her yt or fb that if you don't start off with "you're beautiful" she will instantly delete your post and/or block you.
@ Sining:
have you even consider what kind of people on gurugossip are?
- as far as I know, people on GG were ex-fans. People on GG are either working professionals or are still in school pursuing a degree.
How did she fool you guys? she was just giving advice of how to put colors on your face and giving some tips about skin care. why do you guys feel like she lied bigtime on all of you. you guys were never friends nor know each other in real life. Its funny how people over react on someone's life whom they never met personally.
-- since you lurk on GG why didn't you find any of her lies exposed there?ohh so, another blind minion are you? we don't have to be friends with Michelle in real life to know all about her contradictions and lies, she's pretty much feeding it to all of us. thank you! michellephail.tumblr.com
How did she use the name of the Lord in vain?
- Michelle "encourages" people to attend Sunday school, she tweets she's at this or at that church but does she live a christian life? NO! I don't see it that way. She brags non-stop and Michelle lie all the time, that does seem to be a christian life to you? Michelle uses Christianity to gain more followers/subs. If you don't call that hypocrisy and putting the name of the Lord our God in vain then I don't know what to call it then.
and how can you be so sure that that girl on the picture is really michelle phan?
- BB, IT IS MICHELLE PHAN! she's the one who uploaded that pictures haha and even she defended that picture saying along the lines of "geez, some people get baptized naked".. that is not some Michelle Phan look a like, 'coz that is Michelle herself.
those people on gurugossip keeps on poisoning people's mind.
- nope. I am actually thanking my friend who gave the GG website to me and the posters on GG because they opened my eyes about who Michelle Phan really is. Like I said before, evidences (of Michelle's lies etc etc) don't lie. If there is someone who is poisoning someone's brain, it will be Michelle Phan, poisoning her minions' brains.
a supposed to be make-up tutorial guru ends up being a hate target diva.
- the HATE card again *sigh* had Michelle been honest and not contradicting herself and giving credit to where it is due, do you think there will be different kinds of thread on GG and blog posts like this all over the internet about her? NO. Again, for the 9349928394238402th time, we are not HATERS!! we are just disappointed ex-fans.
Idolization that causes us to create a false sense of dependency and places an irrational and unnatural emphasis on the person, place or thing can be dangerous. Look at them.. they hate her because they felt that she lied on them, even though she dont know them...
- do you know Michelle Phan yourself?Are you friends with her in real life that you go blindly defending her like that? Please, read michellephail.tumblr.com and read it and come back and tell me that Michelle did not lie to us?
The problem with "fans" like you: you guys are a bunch of blind one sided minions who jump into the "they are Michelle's haters", "they are just jealous" band wagon without hearing/reading the other side of the story on why we started to dislike Michelle Phan so much.
if im you,i would spend time chasing after my dreams like michelle phan.so what if she lies??? you don't lie? people don't lie? im sure you lie about things but ppl just don't give a shit about it. michelle just happen to be famous and when one is famous, it is natural to have haters like you.it's her personal business if she choose to lie then she will.who do you think you are? i watch michelle phan's videos but i don't idolize her..it seems like that's what you're doing. i only watch it for makeup tips because she is a makeup guru after-all. so what if all she posts on tweets are about things she bought.she's a guru so she'll tell you ppl what she gets to tell u what is good.she is spending her hard earned money, not yours.and who caresssssssssss about the evidence that ppl have..wtf is wrong with you? why do u drown urself with michelle phan and her life? while she make videos she also has a life of her own..maybe you should get a life of your own?
PPl subscribed to her to watch her makeup videos.im sure they didnt' subscribed because they love her(without knowing her) and want to know about her life.how boring of a video would that be??
FYI being a christian doesn't mean you love or don't love animals..christians believe that everything on earth is for human use. YES. human use. including animals!
ok her pet die. its a frikin animal ppl!!!get over it! I swear many americans treat they pets like kings and queens, even better than they treat other humans.and especially being a christian u are suppose to have a very positive outlook on death anyway.
The thing about ppl is that you think michelle is so normal just like you when you first watch her vids and you like her and you became her fans, all of a sudden her dreams came true, she became a little famous and you are still where you are, hasn't accomplished much. she have so much attention and is making so much money-and what have you accomplished? Maybe it's best if ppl get their own goals and have their own priorities so they don't dwell themselves in other people's sucess...like you.
my point is..stop being stupid little girl. just let it go. let michelle live the way she wants. as if she need ur permission to lie. she can and she will if need be. ok?
Ly:
that's a long rant wasn't it? I was trying not to laugh the whole time! haha actually, I hope you visit this page again so you'll know how blind idiotic fan you just sounded like.
if im you,i would spend time chasing after my dreams
- oh don't worry minion, I am chasing after my dream. That's why I go to school FULL TIME and I am graduating soon. thank you very much!
so what if she lies??? you don't lie? people don't lie? im sure you lie about things but ppl just don't give a shit about it. michelle just happen to be famous and when one is famous, it is natural to have haters like you.
- of course everyone do lie. and uhm people don't give a shit about it? ARE YOU SURE??? ok, I'm gonna ask you this, if the one you love lied to you about a certain thing, you wouldn't give shit about it? If a friend of yours, a co-worker, a relative, your boyfriend, your family lied to you, these people whom you trust, lied to you, you still wouldn't give a shit about it? If your answer is NO, then I guess you're not human? and I'm pretty sure no matter how big or how small the lie is, if you've been lied to, you'll feel betrayed and hurt. So yes, minion, you're wrong about people not giving shit about other people telling lies.
- and about the "haters" thing, ohh babe, that's just getting old. orlly??? JEALOUS?about what? Michelle Phan's non-existent talent? That Michelle Phan is famous then I should be jealous? dear, there's nothing to be jealous about. If I'd be jealous over a guru with actual talent then that person wouldn't be Michelle Phan because there are other gurus on youtube who are 913012381931934 times better than MP. There's the pixiwoo sisters, petrilude, misschievous, frmheadtotoe, etc etc.
so seriously, there's something to be jealous about Michelle Phan? delusional much?
Ly:
it's her personal business if she choose to lie then she will.
- again you minion, Michelle Phan is a public figure now so she should be watching what she should and shouldn't lie about or just STOP LYING. I suggest you go to this blog and read more. michellephail.tumblr.com
who do you think you are?
- so who do I think I am?haha well I'm Emmaleigh and I believe I have the power to express my right to freedom of speech, if I am disliking Michelle Phan now then that's also my right. understand? I don't like Angelina Jolie so that makes me an Angelina Jolie hater? NO. I don't like the girl seating next to me in class, that makes me a hater? so seriously, if you have nothing better to say other than "you're just jealous" card then I suggest don't even bother commenting anymore because we like and we don't like people for some reasons. And since you came here all fired up that means you're "jealous" of me too? =)) see, not because we don't like someone that makes us a hater, we are just simply exercising our free will to chose who to like and who not to like.
i watch michelle phan's videos but i don't idolize her..
- you don't idolize Michelle Phan? then why the heck you came across this blog? did you google "michelle phan is a liar"?? if you don't idolize Michelle then why are you calling me jealous of her "talent?" IF YOU DON'T IDOLIZE MICHELLE PHAN, you wouldn't give a shit also to what other "haters" say about her. Seriously, are you Michelle Phan? =)) stop contradicting yourself honey, will you?
i only watch it for makeup tips because she is a makeup guru after-all.
- oh great if you find her tips ok. good for you then. ;)
so what if all she posts on tweets are about things she bought.she's a guru so she'll tell you ppl what she gets to tell u what is good.she is spending her hard earned money, not yours.
- Michelle should consider most esp her pre-teen fans who only rely to their parents for financial support who can't afford the stuff that Michelle buys for herself. Do you think those fans who can't afford don't feel sorry for themselves that they don't have the extra money over a new pair of shoes?
- not my money?where are you living?under a rock? Michelle's income are from being a youtube partner and she gets paid for every click she gets on her videos and from her IQQU line. not my money?see minion, you're wrong again, when I used to be a Michelle Phan fan, I watch her videos on her channel so I contributed to the money she spends.
and who caresssssssssss about the evidence that ppl have..wtf is wrong with you? why do u drown urself with michelle phan and her life? while she make videos she also has a life of her own..maybe you should get a life of your own?
- No. actually, wtf is wrong with people like you continuing to support a scam like Michelle Phan? and who careesssssssssssssss (lulz) about the evidences? I do! some people do and soon MOST people will care about it too. Why? Evidences are a solid proof of something right? Well, those evidences up on michellephail.tumblr.com exposes who the real Michelle Phan is how much of a poser and a liar she is.
- oh no, I don't obsess over Michelle, you on the other hand just assumed that 'coz of what?'coz I'm a "hater?" lulz! And Michelle has a life?what? I didn't know that! I thought she's just up all night lurking the gg forum and deleting constructive criticisms she gets on fb, twitter & yt all day and night and also blocking people on youtube? that's what you call life?well if that's the case then maybe yeah you're right, I don't have a life. =)) *sarcasm*
Ly:
PPl subscribed to her to watch her makeup videos.im sure they didnt' subscribed because they love her(without knowing her) and want to know about her life.how boring of a video would that be??
- well, I can't speak for other people but as for myself subscribing on youtube goes, I sub 'coz I believe in the talent they have. Whether that person is a guru or a musician, if I love and believe in what he/she does, I do subscribe. No. I just don't subscribe to people just for the heck of watching their video.
FYI being a christian doesn't mean you love or don't love animals..christians believe that everything on earth is for human use. YES. human use. including animals!
ok her pet die. its a frikin animal ppl!!!get over it! I swear many americans treat they pets like kings and queens, even better than they treat other humans.and especially being a christian u are suppose to have a very positive outlook on death anyway.
- this is gonna be the most moronic I've read from a minion.
- and who said about being a christian should instantly love their pets? Michelle is obviously using Christianity to gain more fans that's the point and you missed it. FYI (I am seriously starting to think that you're Michelle Phan pwuahaha) Michelle talks about her religion and yet her actions are not like one.
- not only christians believe in that,I am a catholic and I do understand that we have to survive but we should respect animals too. Michelle Phan being an animal lover supports companies who tests on animals. Yes. most people not just Americans treat their animals better than humans, why? Humans could take advantage of other human being, an animal on the other hand will be happy if they have food, shelter and person to take care of them. I've never heard or read from a paper that an animal took advantage of his/her master. So I can't blame animal lovers out there if they care more for their animals than other people.
- again, as a catholic, we also should have a positive outlook on deaths too. but as a HUMAN before seeing the positive into our loved ones death, we weep first, we get hurt and then we move on. That's how it works.
The thing about ppl is that you think michelle is so normal just like you when you first watch her vids and you like her and you became her fans,
- oh yeah, Michelle used to be so down to earth when she first started out, and that's the reason why I liked her in the first place.
all of a sudden her dreams came true, she became a little famous and you are still where you are, hasn't accomplished much.
- oh no, WRONG again. I've done my 2 years for my pre-bachelor and now what's left of the 4 year program I am currently pursuing is down to two more years before I graduate, so see, I've accomplished if that is not much, at least I've accomplished something. I don't need to be famous so I could say, I achieved that much.
she have so much attention and is making so much money-and what have you accomplished?
- I admit, I don't make as much as Michelle does but I do work hard so I could pay my rent and other bills and I still manages to not just survive but pass all my courses so that me is an accomplishment.
Ly:
finally, for the last part, yeah I had to do the reply in parts or else blogger will not post it.
Maybe it's best if ppl get their own goals and have their own priorities so they don't dwell themselves in other people's sucess...like you.
- oh, I have my own goals set, and that is to FINISH school. I have my own priorities in life: study harder, work so I have money, spend time with my family, my boyfriend and have time to socialize with my friends. Blogging and occasionally lurking on forums, I do that on my free time. I don't "dwell" in Michelle's "success".. FYI
my point is..stop being stupid little girl. just let it go. let michelle live the way she wants. as if she need ur permission to lie. she can and she will if need be. ok?
- how about you grow some sense first? And since we're "haters" and you don't "idolize" Michelle, why don't you let go?drop it?STFU? yeah sure Michelle can live the life she wanted, but at least be honest to her loyal fans. if she's really living the christian life as what she claims, then yeah she should be HONEST, isn't that a christian teaching too?don't deceive others?
im not supporting michelle phan.i just happen to enjoy her videos..FOR MY OWN PLEASURE..she just happen to benefit from it and that is probably true with most of her subscribers and then they get carried away as if they own michelle phan's life.
I don't need to argue with an uneducated jealous bitch like you. go get an education so you can think critically.You are nothing but a typical asian girl who likes to hate on people who are sucessful or prettier or better than you.
Tell me what you have succeeded in your life if you dare. Probably nothing. I can say this because i'm sucessful. michelle phan is just another successful woman.you must be jealous out of your mind little girl!
Ly
OMG!!!!!!!!!! you're back!!! wahaha you're lurking here.. oh my.. I'm honoured. :D :D :D
you watch Michelle's vids for YOUR OWN PLEASURE??well that simply meant you're supporting her. And you came back here to tell me that "I don't support Michelle Phan" actually proved the otherwise.. you're here to defend Michelle Phan 'coz you're a supporter. Just admit it, it's ok. :D
I don't need to argue with an uneducated jealous bitch like you. go get an education so you can think critically.
- UNEDUCATED JEALOUS BITCH hmm wow! words from an "educated" like you eh? and what are you stupid?that you did not understood what I said earlier on? I am getting educated, I go to University and I have 2 more years left of the 6 year program I am pursuing. :D :D :D so yeah, learn how to read and UNDERSTAND!!
You are nothing but a typical asian girl who likes to hate on people who are sucessful or prettier or better than you.
- If I am a seriously hater, I'd be hating people who are far more successful than Michelle Phan. The presidents, the prime ministers, the royals, Julia Roberts. Who cares if there's 1929293203 girls out there who are way prettier than me?I don't. I get loved enough and my thinks that I'm pretty so I'm contented that way. thank you!
Tell me what you have succeeded in your life if you dare. Probably nothing. I can say this because i'm sucessful. michelle phan is just another successful woman.you must be jealous out of your mind little girl!
- What I've succeeded in life? Nothing you said?well you're wrong coz see like I said, that you obviously missed even tho it was on the first part of my reply to you, I am a FULL TIME STUDENT, I've done my 2 years of pre-bachelor and now I have 2 more years of the 4 year program I am pursuing right now. I am not a graduate yet but I am managing to stay in school and keep my part time job and being able to pay my rent and bills, that to me is an accomplishment already.
- And if you are successful as you are claiming right now, how come you don't seem that educated to me? Missing all the simple capitalization? And you can't even spell successful right.
So why don't you take your own advice? Go get some education so you wouldn't be sounding too moronic right now. yes?
I have one single question: Do you have evidence of any sort to back up these accusations?
Because I think slandering someone with baseless accusations that you read in some random bashing thread is far, far worse than any wrongdoing you've accused of this person.
Wouldn't you feel bad if it turned out these accusations are false, and that you're just hurting someone you don't even know?
Oh, by the way, you do realize that if she needed special permission, or needed to make special arrangements to shoot something at Disneyland or whatever, she might have needed to book weeks, maybe even months in advance?
The date was probably set in stone, and she had to follow through regardless of personal problems in her life. Things like that are hard to reschedule, so you can't just cancel for anything. Maybe if a family member or relative died, but certainly not for a pet.
Wen
- you obviously didn't read the whole thing didn't you?or even the comments up above you?if you want evidences go to these blogsites and there aren't just ONE but lotsa evidences, pretty much all you need.
www.michellephail.tumblr.com
www.michellephail.blogspot.com
I am not gonna express my disappointment towards Michelle Phan if the evidences aren't solid.
so the next time you come here please learn how to read so you won't look moronic when the answer to your "one question" had been answered lotsa times already.
www.michellephail.tumblr.com
www.michellephail.blogspot.com
You call that evidence?
I'm sorry but a tumblr and blogspot website exposing her "lies" are as trustworthy as The National Enquirer.
The Gossip Guru forum's name speaks for itself and is just that: Gossip.
Nothing is true, it's all an accumulation of allegations and assumptions all compiled into a blog.
If you are in school like you supposedly say you are, I'm sure you have written research papers, and you know what the rubric and standards are when making an argument.
One of the most important things that the professor looks for when you're backing up your argument is where you get your sources, and I'm sorry to say but tumblr and blogspot are hardly valid sources and are just as good as Wikipedia.com. Expect an 'F' on that paper if you used any of those as your references, especially Guru Gossip. Anyone can go on that site and write and edit the information on there.
You cannot deem the information credible if you don't even know who the writer is.
So until I see some valid sources, everything on those sites are just that: gossip.
chunkingexpress
did you actually go to those websites?both the tumblr and blogspot account? If you did then you would know that all the entries written up there were all from MICHELLE PHAN HERSELF "fed" to us! It was straight from Michelle's own twitter, facebook and youtube accounts so I don't get the point why you're being a blind minion here.
Yes. I've done my research in school & I know how it's done. Do you think I'm just here as a wagon rider? "hating" on Michelle? lulz! Like I said, those evidences were from Michelle Phan's "mouth"/fingers screen capped so we have something solid as a back up.
READ THIS AND LET YOUR BRAIN ABSORB IT: Tumblr and blogspot accounts were made as a compilation of all Michelle's lies and contradictions. None, yeah NONE of those screen capped twitter tweets, fb and youtube comments were edited as they were written by Michelle Phan herself. Again, it was from Michelle's personal accounts so I don't think anyone of us could edit what was tweeted etc etc.
Gossip will only remain as a gossip unless there's a proof that will make it look otherwise. And in this case, it is not just gossip since like I said, the proof is as solid as a rock.
TO ALL THE MINIONS: READ THIS ARTICLE BEFORE GOING IN HERE OR THE GURUGOSSIP SITE CALLING US A BUNCH OF "HATERS".
http://gurugossip.omgforum.net/michelle-phan-f13/minions-awaken-t1955.htm
Excuse me, before you go ahead and assume that I am a "blind minion",
I already read through the Michelle Phail tumblr, and it was rather disappointing, it's obviously a load of bull shit. For example, that is where I found the 20 minute rant video made by ExcelleATL, who also regularly posts as Lone Ranger on Gossip Guru. It was the same girl who messaged Michelle Phan's boyfriend and added him on facebook as a friend, and later posted the pictures of their conversation on the GG forum, claiming that he "flirted" with her which, by the way, was deleted by the mods because of how stupid and pointless and UNTRUE it was. Carl Choi ended up deleting her ass off his facebook after he saw that video.
Honestly, if ExcelleATL dislikes Michelle Phan so much, why does she go MESSAGING HER BOYFRIEND and acting all nice and casual to him?????
Just from that post alone, there's unarguably a bunch of flaws and discrepancies in that blog. Woops.
chungkingexpress
ohh so you read the tumblr posts and blogspot accounts eh?then why the heck you came here and told me that it's plain "gossip" when all the entries written there were facts? so fail point for you: 1
so you lurk around GG eh? 2 fail points for you.
ExcelleATL disliking Michelle Phan has nothing to do with her liking to be friends with Michelle's bf, Carl Choi. I don't like Angelina Jolie but I like Brad Pitt, would I follow Brad Pitt's social networking account and message him to "talk" casually? I sure would! The point? I'm not gonna stop liking Brad Pitt now coz he's involved with Jolie. Same case maybe for ExcelleATL, Carl Choi and Michelle Phan.
Both parties assumed that there was FLIRTING that happened. Michelle Phan surely did assume that too and I'm pretty sure you saw the screen cap too right?since you lurk on GG?
So again, if ExcelleATL likes to be friends and casual with Carl Choi then be it. I'm sure there are some friends of Carl who doesn't like Michelle and vice versa.
And this whole ExcelleATL & Carl Choi "flirting" incident was never on either the tumblr or blogspot accounts. The rant?Yes! I saw that up there. But like I said, ExcelleATL wanting to be nice and be friends with Carl Choi has nothing to do with Michelle Phan. And the rant was all about "why I don't like the Michelle" and she gave all the reasons why. I don't remember ExcelleATL mentioning Carl Choi in her rant vids.
You're not gonna stop being friends with your friends just 'coz you don't like a certain member of his/her family are you?
I don't know about you, but I'm not gonna start disliking people now 'coz he/she is involved with someone I don't like.
so yeah woops.
major fail points for you: 19239028203292
kthnxbye!
Psh, since you love to make comparisons, let me go ahead and make one for you: ExcelleATL can "like" and message Carl Choi all she wants but he obviously doesn't give a rat's ass about ExcelleATL, that's why he REMOVED HER from his facebook hahaha. Major FAIL points for her.
As for you, you said: "I like Brad Pitt, would I follow Brad Pitt's social networking account and message him to "talk" casually?"
I'm sorry but Brad Pitt would never talk to your ugly ass either hahahahahah. kthnxbye!!!!!
chungkingexpress
so what if Brad Pitt will never reply to any of my messages? Like I said from before, I will just add him and message him just like any other FAN does, if he replies then GOOD if not it's ok.
Whether Brad Pitt cares about my ugly ass or not,that still will never change the fact that Michelle Phan is still a one big scam.
And oh, Obviously, Carl Choi gave a rat's ass about ExcelleATL before all this drama. haha *facepalm*
sorry Phanny. =))
And thank you for keep on coming back here. I love laughing at you for being a blind pea-sized brain minion. aahh my daily dose of humor.
- Well you should know better hun. How you know for sure they are all educated or ex fans? Some of them are just haters. I do understand if someone brings out the facts, but so called “facts” like: she is fat, her nail fell off, she lied about going out to buy food, she is behaving like a bitch and things like that are not facts but hater bullshit scamming comments.
- I went there and everything I red was bullshit ( all thought I couldn’t make myself reading all of that crap ). No facts. Of course, If I were one of those who just can’t wait to bash someone, I would blindly believe what they say, but since I have my own head and I have common sense of judgment I don’t believe everything I see. I don’t think she is stupid or fat or a liar, neither I am her follower, just I am so damn fed up with this crap. Since she started working for Lancome, I can’t come to the internet without seeing something so negative like gurugossip shit or your post here.
- Michelle isn’t bragging about her being Christian. She talks about that here and there. Why would she have more followers by talking about Christianity, when this world is overloaded with fake Christians and atheists? Also if she is fake Christian, so you are too posting such a posts and fighting against all of those who come to say what they think ( God forbid something positive about MP ).
- If MP is poisoning her “minon’s brain” in that case you are poisoned by GG and it means you are weak person cause everybody could make impact on you. Funny, isn’t it? Sad in same time!
- This isn’t hate card, this is “opinion” but you don’t take it that way cause you are just happy to bash someone. Don’t you have a life? You are probably spending hours and hours on GG since you know everything. I went there, tried to read a bit and it was a crap and boring, I couldn’t waste my time on that. I am wasting my time here too, but I am just trying to “help you out here”. You guys are calling her for “dirty make up kist “ is that a fact? Or about her IQQU line? You know, I tried almost everything out of Garnier products, I got brake outs, my skin was gross and finally I developed allergy. Woohoo! So? Does it makes Garnier the worst cosmetics ever? Nope. That’s me and maybe half million of other women with same experience.
- She plays games, so what? That’s lie too? How do you know that ?
- You guys are totally waste of time, evil, selfish, lonely. You should find something interesting in life, like reading or going out, not just sitting there growing your ass and being jealous of someone who at least did something with her life unlike you! Don’t even bother to answer me!
- Well you should know better hun. How you know for sure they are all educated or ex fans? Some of them are just haters. I do understand if someone brings out the facts, but so called “facts” like: she is fat, her nail fell off, she lied about going out to buy food, she is behaving like a bitch and things like that are not facts but hater bullshit scamming comments.
- I went there and everything I red was bullshit ( all thought I couldn’t make myself reading all of that crap ). No facts. Of course, If I were one of those who just can’t wait to bash someone, I would blindly believe what they say, but since I have my own head and I have common sense of judgment I don’t believe everything I see. I don’t think she is stupid or fat or a liar, neither I am her follower, just I am so damn fed up with this crap. Since she started working for Lancome, I can’t come to the internet without seeing something so negative like gurugossip shit or your post here.
- Michelle isn’t bragging about her being Christian. She talks about that here and there. Why would she have more followers by talking about Christianity, when this world is overloaded with fake Christians and atheists? Also if she is fake Christian, so you are too posting such a posts and fighting against all of those who come to say what they think ( God forbid something positive about MP ).
- If MP is poisoning her “minon’s brain” in that case you are poisoned by GG and it means you are weak person cause everybody could make impact on you. Funny, isn’t it? Sad in same time!
- This isn’t hate card, this is “opinion” but you don’t take it that way cause you are just happy to bash someone. Don’t you have a life? You are probably spending hours and hours on GG since you know everything. I went there, tried to read a bit and it was a crap and boring, I couldn’t waste my time on that. I am wasting my time here too, but I am just trying to “help you out here”. You guys are calling her for “dirty make up kist “ is that a fact? Or about her IQQU line? You know, I tried almost everything out of Garnier products, I got brake outs, my skin was gross and finally I developed allergy. Woohoo! So? Does it makes Garnier the worst cosmetics ever? Nope. That’s me and maybe half million of other women with same experience.
- She plays games, so what? That’s lie too? How do you know that ?
- You guys are totally waste of time, evil, selfish, lonely. You should find something interesting in life, like reading or going out, not just sitting there growing your ass and being jealous of someone who at least did something with her life unlike you! Don’t even bother to answer me!
i actually kind of liked you at the beginning of this post. sadly, as i read through the comments, you just became another one of those ranters/haters swarming all over the internet... like another biased troll. all of your sources are biased. no matter how you will try to argue that it is concrete in facts, it is biased. biased is biased is biased. .com websites are biased. blogs are biased. the conclusions you are drawing from pictures, are all biased.
you cannot draw such conclusions as you've stated above from simple pictures. take, for example, a picture of a sunset. It just a simple sunset. I am going to assume the sunset was in Hawaii. I am going to assume the sunset is a sunset and not a sunrise. I am going to assume that what the sunset is doing is wrong, even though what it is doing is perfectly natural. I am going to say that the sunset is a liar, because it is setting. I am going to tell everyone that the sunset should be hated, because I do not like the sunset. i am not learning about the sunset from credible books and sources. i am not asking the sunset how it came to be what it was. i am merely stating ideas about it. That is what you're doing, only you mask it as "evidence." Making assumptions without viable proof. making opinions and not facts. please continue to use your analytical skills so that you can improve them, my suggestion is to start with topics that are more objective and that do not deal with personal feelings.
the fact that you're mercilessly taking a person, a regular human being who has commit no horrible crime, apart like some kind of dissection of an animal in a demeaning way is horrible. how can you do that to someone? and i am not just talking about MP, i am also talking about your comments to those who have responded to your post.
i find it somewhat sad that you only liked this MP person because you thought she was poor. it is no wonder why, when you thought she wasn't poor, you did not like her. i thought her tutorials were interesting.. looked her up to learn more about her, and stumbled across people like you, who make this world a sadder place with their message of hatred, spreading their hate like locusts attacking rich fields... one locust at a time.
i hope you can find it in you to stop spreading hate in the world, and to spread a messages such as those michelle phan has tried so hard to do in her videos.
and also, the fact that you've called all of these people horrible names, "minion," "blind," etc... that really says a lot more about you than you think. if you cannot look at another person's views and understand them (ie. your commentor's), then you cannot say that you have analysis skills well enough to write incriminating posts such as these.
i am not arguing with you. i am simply saying that i do not believe you, and why. and i am also saying that seeing your character evolve to what it actually is, makes me pity you, even though i do not want to.
i actually kind of liked you at the beginning of this post. sadly, as i read through the comments, you just became another one of those ranters/haters swarming all over the internet... like another biased troll. all of your sources are biased. no matter how you will try to argue that it is concrete in facts, it is biased. biased is biased is biased. .com websites are biased. blogs are biased. the conclusions you are drawing from pictures, are all biased.
you cannot draw such conclusions as you've stated above from simple pictures. take, for example, a picture of a sunset. It just a simple sunset. I am going to assume the sunset was in Hawaii. I am going to assume the sunset is a sunset and not a sunrise. I am going to assume that what the sunset is doing is wrong, even though what it is doing is perfectly natural. I am going to say that the sunset is a liar, because it is setting. I am going to tell everyone that the sunset should be hated, because I do not like the sunset. i am not learning about the sunset from credible books and sources. i am not asking the sunset how it came to be what it was. i am merely stating ideas about it. That is what you're doing, only you mask it as "evidence." Making assumptions without viable proof. making opinions and not facts. please continue to use your analytical skills so that you can improve them, my suggestion is to start with topics that are more objective and that do not deal with personal feelings.
the fact that you're mercilessly taking a person, a regular human being who has commit no horrible crime, apart like some kind of dissection of an animal in a demeaning way is horrible. how can you do that to someone? and i am not just talking about MP, i am also talking about your comments to those who have responded to your post.
i find it somewhat sad that you only liked this MP person because you thought she was poor. it is no wonder why, when you thought she wasn't poor, you did not like her. i thought her tutorials were interesting.. looked her up to learn more about her, and stumbled across people like you, who make this world a sadder place with their message of hatred, spreading their hate like locusts attacking rich fields... one locust at a time.
i hope you can find it in you to stop spreading hate in the world, and to spread a messages such as those michelle phan has tried so hard to do in her videos.
and also, the fact that you've called all of these people horrible names, "minion," "blind," etc... that really says a lot more about you than you think. if you cannot look at another person's views and understand them (ie. your commentor's), then you cannot say that you have analysis skills well enough to write incriminating posts such as these.
i am not arguing with you. i am simply saying that i do not believe you, and why. and i am also saying that seeing your character evolve to what it actually is, makes me pity you, even though i do not want to.
"Your comment has been saved and will be visible after blog owner approval." If you do not approve my post, you are doing exactly what you claim is so bad; that'd make you a hypocrite.
Lilith
- you have to understand that people do come on the GG site for different reasons, some old timer posters from the gg site such as Jeanie, ASDF, barf, nophanintended, bumble b,SaySorry and other unregistered users, criticizes Michelle and her makeup application skills, how "professional" she handles her business. I, gg mods or any of the posters in the forum has no control about what other people post for a comment. And since you've been lurking on gg these days, then you should've have realized that some of them posters are trolls spamming the thread.
hygiene
- I honestly believe that Michelle's hygiene should be pointed out. Michelle has the $$$$ why can't she make herself look more clean/presentable more? Why does she have to be sloppy about taking care of herself? Michelle's claiming that she's a freelance professional MUA & yet doesn't clean her brushes?If your MUA is as unhygienic as Michelle, would you entrust your face to hers? of course not!
Michelle isn’t bragging about her being Christian. She talks about that here and there. Why would she have more followers by talking about Christianity, when this world is overloaded with fake Christians and atheists? Also if she is fake Christian, so you are too posting such a posts and fighting against all of those who come to say what they think ( God forbid something positive about MP ).
-- Again, Michelle is using Christianity for all the wrong reasons. I am not a fake religious person (as what you are trying to imply ff the statement), I never claimed in any of my posts that I am this & that of religion. I have my own faith & belief and that is between me and my God, not me & preaching falseness to the world.
Lilith
If MP is poisoning her “minon’s brain” in that case you are poisoned by GG and it means you are weak person cause everybody could make impact on you. Funny, isn’t it? Sad in same time!
-- Nope. Sorry to disappoint you my dear, but I'm not weak. Because I chose to see the truth, if I am "poisoned" by GG, then I should've been posting hater comments on gg or blogging and hating Michelle for EVERYTHING! But am I?nope! as far as I could remember all my posts were related to her lying & her being unprofessional. So sorry again dear for disappointing you. ;)
This isn’t hate card, this is “opinion” but you don’t take it that way cause you are just happy to bash someone. Don’t you have a life? You are probably spending hours and hours on GG since you know everything. I went there, tried to read a bit and it was a crap and boring, I couldn’t waste my time on that. I am wasting my time here too, but I am just trying to “help you out here”. You guys are calling her for “dirty make up kist “ is that a fact? Or about her IQQU line? You know, I tried almost everything out of Garnier products, I got brake outs, my skin was gross and finally I developed allergy. Woohoo! So? Does it makes Garnier the worst cosmetics ever? Nope. That’s me and maybe half million of other women with same experience.
-- It's your opinion, other people has theirs, I respect that. What I don't like about other people coming in here and label me as a hater or all of the people from GG. Again, most of us on GG are ex-fans, disappointed ex-fans. And ya know what?Since Michelle herself lurks on GG, she takes some of her ex-fans criticism and she is trying to change. Did you also get to the part where Michelle gets praises (not in a sarcastically way) by some of the people in GG?or you're too absorbed jumping up and down counting posts and labeling people who post comments on GG as haters?
- dirty makeup kit, is that a fact?uh-huh! You yourself as a fan, don't tell me you missed seeing how dirty and caked up most of her brushes are?
- people's skin will react differently on different products, and IQQU, would not be that much of a big deal if it is safe and USFDA approved in the first place. You missed the whole IQQU argument here honey. NOT because Michelle and her team of dermatologists made IQQU, it already meant it's out there to be hated. IQQU is NOT FDA APPROVED, so meaning it is dangerous and not really meant to be sold.
Lilith
She plays games, so what? That’s lie too? How do you know that ?
- uhmm, I don't know where you got that "she plays games, that's a lie too?" because I don't remember reading any of that from anyone on GG, except for real gamers claiming Michelle is a poser. Posing to be a real gamer but doesn't exactly knows what she's doing. Last time I checked, being a liar and poser are totally different. Michelle, I believe, is a gamer, but not a hardcore gamer as what she is trying to portray.
- You guys are totally waste of time, evil, selfish, lonely. You should find something interesting in life, like reading or going out, not just sitting there growing your ass and being jealous of someone who at least did something with her life unlike you! Don’t even bother to answer me!
-- hmm, I see you posted this on November 11 and today is the 16th and I am only replying to you now, why?because I do have a life and my week was spent in school and I've been working on the afternoons after my classes are done. I also went out on the weekend. So yeah, I do have a life. But honestly, the "you have no life" and "you're a hater" "gg is a hate forum" is getting pretty old and redundant. Thank you though, for being lonely and felt the need to come here and tell me how much of a "hater" and "no life" I am.
-- Hey, I did bother to answer you! Just to let you know that I don't ignore people like you. People who only has "hater" and "no life" in their vocabulary.
raingirl
i actually kind of liked you at the beginning of this post. sadly, as i read through the comments, you just became another one of those ranters/haters swarming all over the internet... like another biased troll. all of your sources are biased. no matter how you will try to argue that it is concrete in facts, it is biased. biased is biased is biased. .com websites are biased. blogs are biased. the conclusions you are drawing from pictures, are all biased.
-- sorry if I disappointed you with my replies. I will never ever let anyone come here and label me as a "hater", or as a "no life hater." Like I stated from this blog post, I am a disappointed ex-fan. And I will not consider (at least, yet) GG as a biased forum. As I said to Lilith (the other person who commented), Michelle do gets praises on GG too. there are several occasions that Michelle got praised for actually looking good, looking happy, or that she is starting to learn from criticisms (i.e crediting people now). Don't you think that if we are all haters in general, we would spend a second of our lives complimenting her for being legitimately happy?
That is what you're doing, only you mask it as "evidence." Making assumptions without viable proof. making opinions and not facts. please continue to use your analytical skills so that you can improve them, my suggestion is to start with topics that are more objective and that do not deal with personal feelings.
-- for the 453823203920th time, how could you not call the screen caps of her twitter tweets, fb notes/messages/comments and youtube replies/comments "viable" when Michelle said them so herself? Personal feelings? What do you mean personal feelings?her life?honey, celebrities' life are an open book to the public. Someone on GG had said in a post that Michelle's been blogging since 2007. She's been blogging about her life, everything about her life so nothing is "private" anymore. And why don't you tell that "personal feelings" to Michelle? Do you see/read her replies/tweets? She's being defensive all the time even if it's not necessary. Personal feelings?
the fact that you're mercilessly taking a person, a regular human being who has commit no horrible crime, apart like some kind of dissection of an animal in a demeaning way is horrible. how can you do that to someone? and i am not just talking about MP, i am also talking about your comments to those who have responded to your post.
-- did you even bothered reading who started what? And for the nth time, I'm not gonna sit here and not defend myself if someone comes in here and ASSUME that just 'coz I expressed my disappointment with Michelle Phan thru this blog post, that I'm a hater already. Don't you think it's kinda annoying that you bother to reply and yet some seemed like they skipped your reply post to them and went on and on again with "you're a hater" "you have no life" "gurugossip is a hate forum." If a fan comes in here and expresses his/her opinion in a nice way, I would've have responded in a nice way. I believe I was being nice with my earlier posts, then again, here comes "I've been on gg and you guys are nothing but hatuuursss" comments. Be nice to me and stop assuming and I'll be nice too, regardless if you're a fan or an ex-fan. Come in here like a person who claims to have read gg, tumblr, blogspot and doesn't look like they understood then be bitchy, and started to label, I'll be bitchy and started to label. It's not being trashy, it just goes two way.
This is pretty tiring already. Most of us on gg are ex-fans, disappointed ex-fans. None of the screen caps posted on tumblr and blogspot were photoshopped or "manipulated", as they were from Michelle's own twitter, fb & yt accounts.
Factual evidences? Yes. No one assumed.
raingirl
i find it somewhat sad that you only liked this MP person because you thought she was poor. it is no wonder why, when you thought she wasn't poor, you did not like her. i thought her tutorials were interesting.. looked her up to learn more about her, and stumbled across people like you, who make this world a sadder place with their message of hatred, spreading their hate like locusts attacking rich fields... one locust at a time.
-- I just did not like Michelle 'coz her family used to live on food stamps. I stated that, I liked Michelle 'coz being poor did not stop her in making her dreams happen. So please, don't assume that I only liked her 'coz I thought she was poor growing up and that she gained a fan in me 'coz of sympathy. I used to believe in Michelle's passion. That's the main reason why I became a fan of hers in the first place. Then, Michelle became the person she used to loathe; people with money, people spending this and that crap, materialistic human beings. And that's the reason why I started to dislike her.
Please, stop with the "hater" or "hatred" comments. I am not a hater. I would only and you could do the same if I am disliking Michelle WITHOUT genuine reasons, and in this case, there is, there ARE.
i hope you can find it in you to stop spreading hate in the world, and to spread a messages such as those michelle phan has tried so hard to do in her videos.
-- Again, I can speak for myself that I am no hater.
and also, the fact that you've called all of these people horrible names, "minion," "blind," etc... that really says a lot more about you than you think. if you cannot look at another person's views and understand them (ie. your commentor's), then you cannot say that you have analysis skills well enough to write incriminating posts such as these.
-- like I said, it goes both ways. Calling us haters will make people who come in here not understanding what's really going on and jump into the "haters" wagon makes him/her a "blind minion." Again, please never assume that I don't understand nor respect their opinions regardless their stand in this hoopla. If they said they've been lurking on GG and read the tumblr & blogspot accounts, don't you think it's kinda irritating that they should've known by now that again, some of us are not haters? But what do they do?give me that "#$%#%^$%^## you're nothing but a hater" attitude.
They should've known the difference between a hater a disappointed ex-fan just by lurking on GG and not just read a couple posts made by some trolls and then suddenly we are all haters.
raingirl
i am not arguing with you. i am simply saying that i do not believe you, and why. and i am also saying that seeing your character evolve to what it actually is, makes me pity you, even though i do not want to.
-- I am not arguing with you either. If you do not believe me, that's fine, believe what you wanna believe and I will continue to live my life the way I wanted it. If going to school, having a part time job, having a life and lurking on GG on my free time is a "hater's" life for you, be it. Raingirl, don't go say something like "your character evolve....." not unless, you know me in real life, not just based on this blog post. Goes both ways remember? If I call you a hater of me just 'coz you spent your time commenting, then you go defended yourself then I "ignored" what you said and called you a hater again, that wouldn't make you annoyed?
Oh no, no. don't pity me based on a blog post and comments. Because if we could just "pity" anyone for cursing or for not being a fan of a certain person, then I guess it would also be fair for me to say that I wanted to pity you as well? Because you called me a hater and I have so much hatred? "that your character evolve to what actually is?" (a somewhat confusing statement tbh lulz).
Your comment has been saved and will be visible after blog owner approval." If you do not approve my post, you are doing exactly what you claim is so bad; that'd make you a hypocrite.
-- Don't worry, I'm not a hypocrite, and I always accepts comments whatever it is, no matter how many times a person had sent it. I have an overrated so-called life that I wanted my settings set to "needs approval", so my email don't get spammed with notifications and I don't have to go through every blog post to check if there's new comments or not.
we are all young and believe what we believe true is true (lengthy- i know).
about MP, i have to say this: i have never met her in person, i have never talked to her, but she is Vietnamese, and me too. so if she said she had lead a poor life, i believe it, 100% believe it! 98% vietnamese people moved to Us in wartime were poor, very very poor, if u could imagine this: we even didnt have clothes and food, we starved, we lived on a tiny boat, surrounded by the ocean! and yes, mostly who moved were christians, this is a political matter, so i shouldnt talk much about it.
" IQQU is NOT FDA APPROVED"
u should check this again, it is FDA APPROVED.
in short, yes, i am a fan of MP, but not a crazy fan, just a girl who admire her so much for what she had done. all those insulting comments I read on GG and Youtube makes me cry several times, and really sad, indirectly, those comments go very deeply into my soul, i feel insulted "vietnamese are great bitches", "Mp is a vietnamese bitch who should get raped repeatedly" "Show off, all the make-up she uses is fucking expensive, a bunch of expensive shit" Jesus... what did she do? you are all living in the US, or just moving to it in a comfortable plane, u never know how painful, how hard, how tough a Vietnamese tried to get there in war time. i am sure her life, just like any other vietnamese people, was filled with pains and sufferings,now she's just enjoying her life, doing what she loves to do. so plz, just be a little polite and carefree, respect her for what she is doing now. just put urself into her shoes, what u gonna react when all people around u talk about u like that? it just hurts to tears!
nguyen
You honestly lost me with your statements.
But are you basically implying that whatever a Vietnamese says, you'll believe it? because you're also Vietnamese? I am a Filipino-Canadian, so whatever my PM says or the Philippine president says, I'll have to believe it?because I am a Filipino and Canadian?
I am not saying that I don't believe Michelle 'coz she's Vietnamese and I'm not. She lied so much already in the past that it's catching up already and taking a bite on her ass.
98% vietnamese people moved to Us in wartime were poor, very very poor, if u could imagine this: we even didnt have clothes and food, we starved, we lived on a tiny boat, surrounded by the ocean!
-- I don't get your core here. If you're saying that this is the basis why we said Michelle Phan is a liar, you're wrong. Vietnamese migrating to the US during the war has nothing to do with Michelle growing up poor "lies." I am searching for more words to say because you totally lost me. I don't know what you're trying to imply here.
You know, as an ex-fan, when I started learning about GG, I was hurt too, you know. I adored Michelle and reading what other people "discovered" about her, hurt my feelings, just like what you're probably feeling right now. I did not just hopped in the wagon and became an ex-fan. It took a long time and "investigation" before I considered myself as an ex-fan.
"vietnamese are great bitches", "Mp is a vietnamese bitch who should get raped repeatedly"
-- I'm sorry, but I have never read anything about Vietnamese are great bitches post in the forum. Maybe, there are some comments like she should get raped repeatedly out there that I didn't get to read. Or are you just assuming that there are comments like that because people who type out comments are not Vietnamese and you feel that non-Vietnamese are "ganging" up on you guys. I hope you don't feel that way and make it look like I am or some of the ex-fans are racists.
Race was never brought up, I don't think someone on GG someone commented and said something bad about Vietnamese in general. The topic is Michelle Phan, not the whole Vietnam or Vietnamese in the US.
nguyen
you know, people go through different road bumps everyday. Sure, we will live life the way we wanted it to be. What we found hypocritical about Michelle, is she BECAME the person she used to despise. And I'm pretty sure people who were fans since Michelle's xanga days will agree on that. She used to hate people who brags a lot, who has so many material things, oh hi, what do you know, she's that person now.
I am an ex-fan, not a hater. If you don't want me pointing finger at you and calling you a crazy fan or a blind minion, then don't go jumping around accusing me or some of the people in GG of words we never even said.
and about IQQU products, sorry, but I don't see anywhere that it's USFDA APPROVED. If it is, then don't you think it's only right that it is plastered all over her website?listed in every product description?
sorry, but seems like you over-react and to you, anyone who doesn't have the same opinion with you are MP's crazy fans and are accusing you? everyone has their own point of view and it's impossible to force anyone agree with them, so i just keep my opinion, you keep yours. just one thing i realize after reading the 2 replies you typed here, and all the replies you typed to other people: you are acting very childishly and killing everyone's viewpoint, only yours are right, you just dont listen and constantly say you were an ex-fan, it's just hard to believe so!
well, maybe the things i mentioned above are not in GG, but you can read them anywhere in MP's vids, where do you think those comments come from? GG is a real good site for any girls to follow: being mean and talkative!
i will be 29 in 20th december, not old enough to teach anyone lessons about life, but one thing for sure, we are christians and we are all smearing our God for doing this, we have no right to criticize anyone, we criticize others like we are sinless and given the right to do so, we are adding up our sins and selfishness.
and how about the proof, the pictures in the posts that prove MP is a liar? well, they are all from GG members, who hate MP- a stranger to death, can people trust those proofs? a light-hearted pic can be used in a negative way, a statement can be taken seriously. i dont know things can go this far!
anyway, goodbye and goodluck, ex-fan! how messed-up our society all thinks!
nguyen
like I said, how can someone from GG manipulate something that came from Michelle's OWN twitter, fb and yt accounts? and the fact that Michelle acknowledges them? and no, I don't overreact. It's called "defending" what I believe in, just like you coming here defending Michelle Phan 'coz she's Vietnamese like you. remember?you told me that?
if every MP fan thinks that we are overreacting & we think we are the only ones RIGHT, then I guess we can only say the same thing to her fans like you?you overreact and anything we say that will not favor MP, we're haters??
I don't know where the comments on youtube are coming from, but you can't associate me with them. If someone said something too offensive like "MP is a Vietnamese and Vietnamese are great bitches", I think, you should contact the person who said it. Not me, who only expressed my disappointments with Michelle Phan. Not because someone said on youtube something so degrading like that, doesn't mean, I am capable of saying those kinda words. In any of my replies here, did you ever read any comment that I said or wished something bad happen to Michelle and/or her family? NONE. right? So don't throw angst on me just 'coz someone on youtube made you upset.
And childish? If I'm childish?what do you call yourself then? You said you'll be 29 and yet you come here being upset at me because you read a comment from GG or youtube that made you upset?puhhlease! I only expressed my disappointment.
too many comments and i'm just too lazy to read =_= some points are so ridiculous and rubbish.
in fact, i enjoy Mp's vids, even i admit recently her videos lack of warmth and funny jokes, they're getting too professional now- however, to look at the positive side, it's a big benefit for us- who watch the vids.
and if she's a liar, she's fake, she's blah blah blah, i dont care. who cares? what u need? make-up tutorials or the real information of that chick? then you are too talkative! miley is a liar, selena is a liar, angelina is a liar, vanessa is a liar, rob is a liar, bradpit is a liar, other gurus are liars, every celebrity is a liar- they all need public masks and practice the skill of telling lies, even us, to be frankly! so wtf wrong with people? having a great hatred, disappointment, upset for that girl, go, find a gun, shoot her! stop wasting time, hanging around, getting together and backbiting, it's dishonourable. how many percent do u think the gals in GG dare to say the things they said on the web straight to Michelle's face? "GURU GOSSIP" and when it's GOSSIP, read it for fun!
how i hate those things, i dont wanna say much but i wish i could have a little peace to watch her clips, whenever i click on a new tutorials, all i see is quarreling. those stupid people "michelle, i love you" "you are amazing, you are awesome" "if you dont like her, then dont watch her" and then "fake" "bitch" "u love animals but u work for a company that tested their products on animals" blah blah blah. GEEEEEEEEEEEE.......... SHE'S NOT A GOD, AND NOT AN ANIMAL, JUST TREAT HER LIKE SHE'S A NORMAL HUMAN!
and hey, don't think i am Michelle's fan (yes, you are thinking everything so childishly!) you use these words BLIND, MINION, CRAZY FANS, BRAIN, etc so frequently and according to what i know, you are well-educated, but the way you behavior is not so. anyway, you should say thanks to Mi for this, this post has lots of comments :))
bee
'coz you're too lazy to read, you're being ridiculously repetitive.
and oh, don't worry, we tweet, we comment on Michelle's fb and youtube the things we wanted to point out. Michelle's just been on deleting and blocking spree so that's the reason why you don't see it. And the comments are NOT like "I hate you, Michelle." It's more on her tuts or tweets etc etc.
So calling someone a minion, among others are your basis on someone else's education? Because you skipped, you missed the part where I said, it goes BOTH ways. See, you're seeing me as a hater and you come in here, too lazy to read the comments and you type out your own opinions like you're PMS-ing, repetitive, and you expect me to see you as what?What do you expect me to reply to the "you're a hater" comments? Reply with a smiley face? =))
And I'm not gonna thank anyone or you for any matter for having another comment on this post, I'd rather have someone come here whether a fan or not and actually be sensible. Rather than re-hushing other people's comments.
oh shit, type a whole long comment then black-out =))
ok, so i am not gonna type all the comment again. just some main points:
1st: act more naturally. you are just the same type with those pp in GG, trying to be not so impolite and nice, but your words and your ways are going so wrong, everyone notices this. involving urself in such a site like GG, u making urself a second Cady Heron in Meangirls.
2nd: be a better liar "I AM NO HATER" "I AM AN EX-FAN"
----> who gonna believes this?
people dont reply you, not because you are right, it's because you are SO BLIND AND STUBBORN that words gonna deal nothing with u :))
oh, and not until now i read this
"Do you know who Cuhck Smith is? If you don't, google it. Back in 1990, he was baptizing people in Ocean, girls were in bikines and guys were in shorts. Should we judge their honesty by that? I think not. Michelle is 15 years old on this photo, stop criticizing her for something others do as well."
~~~~~> just as i said, once you hate some1, THERE ARE THOUSANDS WAY TO BASH, TO TRASH, TO CRITICIZE HIM/HER. and i'm so surprised that a girl who has a part-time job like u, would say/believe this:
"as far as I know, people on GG were ex-fans. People on GG are either working professionals or are still in school pursuing a degree."
~~~~~> no ex-fans here, working professional or not, pursuing a degree or not, they're just some types of being insecure of themselves, making fun of people and killing their time by gossiping. go ask your mom what kinda women who getting together, going from topics to topics just to find someone's smallest mistake to blame!
bee
*yawn* same shizz all over again.
but thank you for killing your time here with me.
kthnxbye.
I think this is a load of rubbish. She is very successful and more and with all the things she has come to you believe this? Don't waste your time being jealous of her. About the Mr Bun Bun lie you created, that is okay because Mr Bun Bun may of been special to her and she won't want to talk about it if this had happened. Stop creating more lies, or you'll be in trouble. If you don't I'll show you trouble, because this is so wrong. Many people out there are with me on this. This is a crazy page, and you know it.
This is just my observation of the people who created the michellephail.tumlbr.com site. I have nothing to say about Michelle Phan, her actions and the stories she told. I just happen to watch a few of her tutorials and was thankful of the tips and tricks I've learned re makeup application. I read the articles in that site and i noticed whenever people try to express their opinions, even if they're logical, they are automatically labeled as Michelle's 'minions' or trolls that it sounded like it was a robotic response and it wasn't a very good argument. This is the first time I commented on the issue even though I have read stuff about it for some time now and I think you should just give it a break, enough is enough. Everybody lies, we know it's wrong and we try to live accordingly and spread Jesus' teachings but we are not perfect. I teach my son not to lie but it doesn't mean Ive never lied. I'm kinda bored now and I think I'm starting to rant so I'll just stop.
wtf is wrong with all you people? stop hating on her. She's beautiful and you're picking over gossip because there's nothing else to pick over. And that picture was really unnecessary.
People....grow up. You are just jealous of her success. i am an avid fan and her tips are 100% useful. So what is she lied.....what famous person doesn't...matter of fact what person doesn't who isn't famous?
Look at all the politicians who people like you vote into office...worry about that instead of a make-up guru who made a few white lies....
LMFAO
"I dislike Angelina Jolie,does that make me a Angelina Jolie hater?"
I don't like Angelina Jolie either(:
and people don't know the difference between hater,and dislike.
Dislike-not liking something or someone.
Hater/hating-going on and on about someone or something you don't like,or going to the persons profile or videos saying they are ugly,have no talent,and/or fat9etc etc)
btw ur very pretty(:
FUCK IN HELL !! WOW you have no life. I’m speechless.. just the amount of time you spend on going through others private life and bashing them. And there is nothing wrong with wearing what she wore when she was getting baptized.. many ppl I know many ppl who wear/wore similar clothes. You need to learn how to appreciate others work.. she is not hurting you .. she is hurting no one and you write a blog which can hurt others. Seriously this world would be better without people like you. tsk tsk IF you want to express you disappointment, you could do it without hurt others. Keep it to yourself.. think before you post these types of shit, is it worth it? Is it worth hurting others? Is it worth typing and posting trash about others? Or is it that you want attention? .. there, you have one.
FYI, you don't have to be rich to use Apple computer. I used it since I was like 10 years old(now i'm 32). I'm from Thailand, we are not rich and lived in government house for teachers. I remember how my dad loves new technology and he must have spent big fortune on it eventho it was second handed Apple computer but we were the first family in humble teachers village to use new technology and be able to teach how to use computer to students back then.
Like i said, FYI. I'm no one's fan. I like to be positive and cultivate all the good and happiness moments each day. I don't give the shit if she lies or not real Christian. I'm more concern about something more important like political problem in my country and global warming issue. BUT at least after a long long working day, her vids DOES make a lot of people around the world(including me) feel relaxing and more confidence in doing make up on my own.
PS: Pls excuse my English, it's not my mother tongue language.
BTW, I don't really remember how I get into your blog but it is really annoying to see people pay SO MUCH attention and CONCERN about something stupid like this. You must have live your life in VAIN cus what you do is (I believe it is not out of jealousy) so childish, as you disappointed on her whatever and try to get revenge. It's funny to post comment cus it's not what I usually do especially to foreigner but I do this cus I hope to see you be happier and have peaceful mind :)
Who really cares? Honestly! Shes an amazing makeup artist and put up videos to HELP and TEACH others so why dont you be greatful for all the time she takes out of her life to teach others! Why dont you focus on your own life? and if this matters that much to other people then they can stop watching her or unsubscribe. There is no reason for you to have you rant about her being a liar and a horrible person.
Also adding that photo was real mature on your part!
Don't go believing all this without seeing it with your own eyes. Michelle Phan is a wonderful warm hearted person. I doubt she ever lied because what good will that do to her. Without all the lying she would still appear in Vogue, make up magazines, news channels because of her hard working talent. Like she has to today!
About that her family was living off of stamps; that was the past. She earned what she earned now by her successful company IQQU and her popular YouTube videos and her hard working career.
Now I don't know about Mr. Bun Bun but maybe there could be a new Mr bun bun. and you never know how she feels. she could be heart broken in the inside and not show it by spending her time in Disneyland. I don't know about you fans, but i rather have her be happy than be to be moping.
Seeing her of was she is today is inspirational as a beautiful story.
I'm not for or against her. I'm just going to say that now she is rich. She earned that money. Of course she can now afford these things. Also, there is nothing wrong with getting baptized the way she did. That's quite sexist to otherwise. She has a skirt and bathing suit top on. She's not going to go in wearing a cloak. Woman should not have to feel they need to cover ever inch of themselves. Her breasts aren't hanging out in a major way. A lot of people do not like to share that a pet died. also her vid that he was recovering was before his death. sometimes an animal looks better and then dies. It also wouldn't be healthy to stay home and mourn when she could have benn doing happier things. People like to talk about things when they do not have "proof"/ proof requires observation beyond the internet. People lie too often on here. None of these say she is a bad person. To start making fun my putting pictures up is immature and horrible. She is a human being. Not an object for others to exploit.
You must have no life to hate someone like her. You seriously are wasting your time and energy hating on someone you can not control. You need to grow the hell up and get another hobbie. Michelle might appear a bit awkward but seriously. She is a happy person WHY DOES IT MATTER TO YOU WHAT HER LIFE was like?! OR how she is now?! She is a saint for not snapping back are freaken hater like you. Gees.
You need to grow the hell up and maybe rather then spending your time hating on a person that has DONE nothing to you at all. Read a freaken book or do some homework or talk to a therapist for your messed up head.
Grow the hell up.
LOL. Where do I even start..
In all honesty, how low can you get, "blogger"? Seriously do you HAVE a life? Or do you just sit your fat ass in front of the computer everyday and stalk people who don't even know or care about you - and juice out as much info as you can just so you can bash on them to feel high and mighty? I'm gonna assume that you really have no friends if youre gonna sit behind a screen and shit talk about someone who doesn't even think of you once in their life. Michelle is just an ordinary girl who posts videos up for people who like makeup. She doesn't do her job to fucking please you, okay bitch. So I'll give you adivce that one day you'll realized how low, skanky bitch ass that you are, that you need to in all honest shut the fuck up because no one cares what you say. Everyone has their own lives to live, and you should do the same with yours. "omg michelle blah blah blah" Oh ching chong the fuck up fat ass shallow piece of shit. Approave this comment of not, you know whats up. Be real, stupid bitch.
I just came across this, and I had to say something. Why are you so intent on "exposing" Michelle? People lie, get over it. If she lied, it's not like she lied because she wanted to hurt anyone. I'm pretty sure you've lied or done worst in your life. Unless you're a saint yourself, don't judge or bash her.
wow? really you guys?
Why in the world would you guys spend your time looking up facts about MP life. Don't you think you are taking it a little too far? Who cares if you don't like her other people will still be her followers because lets face it, she is an amazing makeup artist. What do you expect from this? Do you think you can stop people from watching her? Unlikely. She is too main stream to be beaten down by people who delve too much in people's personal life instead of looking at their talent. Honestly i don't care about her life. I just want to keep watching her tutorials. Plus how in the world can you trust in such gossip You never know if things are true or not. The only way you know if it is true is when you are there when it happens. So just lay off, and get a life.
IQQU ACNE SERUM (acne serum) lotion -http://dailymed.nlm.nih.gov/dailymed/drugInfo.cfm?id=34402
From the U.S. National Library of Medicine
Disclaimer: This drug has not been found by FDA to be safe and effective, and this labeling has not been approved by FDA.
http://i32.servimg.com/u/f32/16/02/38/76/fdanot10.jpg
Michelle Phan committed fraud when she posted it IS FDA approved. Her company is NOT LLC protected which means SHE can be held legally responsible.
Furthermore her LLC, registered in Florida, expired in September 2010 because she failed to file yearly reports. If she failed to file yearly reports did she also fail to report her quarterly statements to the Florida Dept of Revenue? Her products ship from Florida, her company was registered in Florida and while she now lives in California there is no record of her having a business license in either California or Florida. Again, her LLC expired in Florida.
http://bit.ly/gCbhHA
http://i32.servimg.com/u/f32/16/02/38/76/fldivi10.jpg
The bottom line is this. Ms. Phan's IQQU Beauty are NOT FDA approved and it's fraudlent to claim otherwise.
I think it's kind of sad that you have to type a huge wall of text, full of hating and bashing, and then type at the end that "I'M NOT A HATER. I'M NOT BASHING HER. I'M JUST AN EX-FAN" or something like that.
If you're really just an ex-fan, not a hater, as you say, then you wouldn't go through her personal life and bash on situation after situation.
And it's degrading that you say you're not a hater when you call her fans "minions" and whatnot.
Really? Not a hater yet you repeatedly call her fans "blind minions" and argue with then that you're right because you have legit facts from a GOSSIP website?
Since when does gossip = truth?
Usually the "facts" you see are twisted truths and fake yet you believe it's real and when people tell you it's fake.. BOOM! You get all defensive.
On the topic of Michelle lieing:
OMFG. SHE LIED. Big deal. Everyone lies. I'll admit I lie when I have to or when I just plain feel like it. Don't act like you, along with every other "ex-fan", are totally innocent, never-lied-in-my-life angels when you're just hating selfless bitches who do nothing but tear through someone's personal life just to find flaws.
Oh and about that Mr. Bun Bun thing:
Maybe she didn't want to tell her fans that he died because she didn't want to have her fans be sad. Mr. Bun Bun was cute and he was very popular with Michelle's fans and maybe she just felt bad telling that.
Oh, but of course, you think she's just a cold heartless bitch who lied about his death and said he was perfectly fine.
Maybe you should grow up and move on with budding into MP's personal life.
I don't think you'd want someone going through your personal life and finding bad things you did and complaining about it. (And don't give me that "But I've never done anything bad" shit.)
Yeah I know you're just going to reply with something immature, call me a mindless minion or something similar to that, and tell me I'm wrong and that you're right.
Better off just not replying.
...
I am just a random person who didn't like or hate michelle phan.
But srsly... I totally agree with Courtney, you need to grow the hell up.
And, try to put yourself into her shoes by magnifying your own life for a minute. Have you lied ever? You must have. I have. Some are huge and some are small. Well, all the things you said in here about MP, to me, they are just so tiny. I think I must have done some terrible like this. I don't hate myself, do you? And I also don't want to come clean cuz I am not a saint.
Liking someone is always better than hating him/her.
MP is beautiful (more beautiful than me), her voice is sweet, she is now very successful and she earned it by herself (I can't). That's enough for me to like her despite all other things.
Be your own star and be happy.
OMG! SHut uP!! And mind your own business! You are not all great at all anyway! YOu gossipper.. hahaha sinner! You are just as bad! Stop judging. Let her live her life and enjoy her great make-up tutorials! Jealousy is a sin! hahaha!
haha...
I have read most of what is written in this page. At the first few parts i began to admire you for being so defensive... you just don't want to be called a 'LOSER'...
then after reading more comments from other people, i noticed that you stopped defending yourself. that's when i really admire you the most... you must have realized that you are, indeed, a 'LOSER'...
i have not seen anyone who was on your side. maybe there is, i just didn't see them because most of the people here are really against this bogus blog...
come on! how can you be so affected with Michelle Phan's lying??? she will lie in front of your face if she wanted to... you will cry to death because she lies to you but then she doesn't care...
so why are you so affected...????
I know that you have come to realize that all of the stuff you have written in here are all wrong... not because they are not FACTS or you are just telling lies, but because it's just so wrong... and it's pretty obvious because a lot of people are reacting against it...
i am not a fan of MP, i happened to watch two of her videos and those are really entertaining... she really deserves where she is right now...
I just came across this site because i clicked on the funny photo of MP you posted in here... that is a one of a kind photo (only haters post it) but you're not a hater, you're just an ex-fan... i believe you, don't worry..
(oopppsss! i lied... hehehehe)
by the way, i am a Pinoy...
nakakaasar lang kasi ang mga pinagsasabi mo dito...
but then, you are what we call 'chismosa'!
but that's ok...
Dear MP fans,
sorry for disappointing you guys that I haven't been defending myself lately. See, having a life these days, going to school, hanging out with my friends and going to my part time job had become overrated.
Honestly, I don't see the point of replying to each one of the comments here just to defend myself. I'm tired of it. Ya'll have nothing new to say to my face anyway, except for the boring bitching about, ex-fans, or a hater like me is just jealous of Michelle Phan and her success.
uh say what, minions?
Again, before ya'll jump at me shoving in my face that I'm a hater, at least, know the difference between a hater and just simply NOT liking a certain individual.
and with what ya'll are saying to me, I guess, there's not much difference between you guys and I. we are all haters.
well, if you guys are not bothered with how MP treats other people, with all her scam, then be it. I can't say the same thing for me.
Why don't you guys go to other blogs, other ex-fans blogs and read about their disappointments and the IQQU scam.
Good Luck.
You are one sad obsessed MP person. When I say obsessed, I meant you are obsess with exploiting MP to an extremity. This is why this world is turning worse everyday because people like you exist. Don't you understand that not a lot of people care for such news or gossip? So why do you even bother creating such things? For fans to know how MP really is? You're really a scary person then. You go to such extremes just to point out on how a certain person can be. You don't back down because you really want the whole world to know how MP really is. Well why don't you start pointing out all the fakers and liars in this
world? Maybe that way, it will help us differentiate the good ones and the bad ones. Oh wait...most of everyone in this world is a faker or a liar at times. You're even one of them. You're just like MP and me and every other person out there. Doing what you're doing now is as bad as what MP is doing too. You're no exception. if you claim yourself as a Christian, first thing is first, you forgive. Have you done that? Absolutely not, you continue pinpointing out MP faults. Sounds like you're not forgiving, if you did, you wouldn't continue going back to this blog and comment how much you despise MP for being such a person. Why don't you criticize the people who are 10 times worse than MP? Like the rapist and killers out there? Don't claim yourself as a christian if you don't know how to forgive.
I respect all opinions. "Different people with different ideas." I personally believe MP is just clumsy and silly. However I don't blame her because I do make mistakes. Noone is flawless.
You know all this is useless it's not your life,if they wanna lie then they can lie. They can do as they please. Fame gets to you it really does. Sometimes it doesn't have to be fame. It could just be your ego, people have pride and most will do or say anything to protect it.
~RavenBatman
Are you people still posting here? read stuff on the MIchellePhail Tumblr and get the truth - dont be lazy. Geez. Give Em a break.
ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS ... IS HER VIDEOS ABOUT FACE CARE TRUE CAUSE IM NOT RUBBING ASPRIN AND CRAP ON MY FACE IF ITS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING...LOL I MEAN REALLY THAT ALL THE GIRL IS GOOD FOR IF ITS TRUE... SHE IS SELLING HER SERVICE FOR FREE SO ... WHATS UP..LOL BUT ALL THE OTHER CRAP I COULD CARE LESS ABOUT.....HMMM
Why does it matter so much? She does makeup tutorials on youtube and yes they are good but does it matter whether or not she lied about a pet dying or whether her family was poor. She is not trying to be role model to people who watch her videos, all she is trying to do is show them how to put on makeup not how to behave and act in society.
She hasn't said any massive lies. She got baptised in a bikini, who cares? She lived on food stamps, she didn't live on food stamps, again who cares? She is a makeup guru who is a person and to err is to be human.
I'm not for or against Michelle Phan, I like her tips and the way she does her makeup but I don't know her as a person so I don't feel as if I am in a position to judge as I don't know what she is actually like and neither do younor do you know if any of the information is actually true.
this is just ridiculous. i can't believe that you wasted your time with such nonsense you really need something to do. 1. her bunny died .. so what ? is she suppose to look her self in the room for 2 weeks and cry or what ? if she planed a trip to disneyland let her do it. 2. she earns alot of money thru youtube. & she isn't materialistic she also uses stuff for 2 §. 3. she's not a nun so come back to earth. 4 and most important. she does not owes us the truth. its her life and she should live it how she wants to. and its non of our business if her bunny is alive or if shes baptized in bikini. the only thing coming from her mouth which schould be true is only if that make up really fits to dark skin so go and get some hobbys
Never heard about the Mish's lies. But come on ,if she were not this famous people would not harshly jugde her like this. No1 is perfect ...
Even if she lied, why would you even care? It's not even your problem! You don't even know her and here you are talking as if you know everything! You are not in a position to judge her. Get a life before actually spending your time reading rumours and write funny stuff like this one.
When my pet died I feel into depression during one week.
I don't like Michelle Phan since she works for Lancome. Did she say that she loves animals? I don't think she loves them. Because if you LOVE animals and nature you shouldn't work for a company that test on poor animals, or bunnies just like her "dear Mr. Bun Bun".
However, she'd been changed. Before she was more natural and dinamic. Byebye to the Ricebunny channel's bloopers, byebye to her home, good-bye smile. Now her videos are longer because she show her face during last minutes and I want to know HOW TO GET THE LOOK, not HOW IT LOOKS IN HER.
Farewell Michelle Phan. Maybe I will watch your videos, but I think you gonna get retirement after all.
Sorry my bad english.
lol you should stop obsessing over her. news flash, ur not fucking friends with her. tom cruise can be the biggest asshole in the world, as long as he can act, i think thats the extent of his job description.
Angelxtearz just made a clear point lmao. this is embarassing. no one cares about her dead fucking rabbits or if she lies.
What a stalker like post.
I mean its crazy that people are so observent about these things!
Its not your business and crap.
Its not like you never lied before??
Can't believe stupid people actually get sad after reading this...so fake.
(Ex: Im soooo heartbroken. this is sad.) SHUT UP!!
So go live your own life and dont worry about others.
Number one rule to rumors and shizzz...
-If they didnt say it, its problem BS. Try not to listen to all the "he said, she said"(Also rule for high school with all those rumors.)
all I care about is if she gives me a good makeup tutorial. which she does. I, unlike you, dont have to stick there nose in everybody else's buisness searching for reasons to dislike them. oh. and ill bet you all of your "evidence" is false.
oh. and can I have some proof other than random people.i cant believe you acctually fall for everything ppl tell you.
I seriously hope God forgives me for spending 30 minutes of my time reading this blog. The whole "Mr. BunBun died and she's out in Disneyland instead of mourning like a depressed soul" thing is RIDICULOUS. I honestly have never read anything so ludicrous in my entire life. I mean, okay, everything else you wrote about her being a scam and all is whatever. That's your opinion and I don't know her personally to defend her, just like you don't know her personally to believe that everything you read is all true and dandy. But that's besides the point. I just can't believe that you expected a person to stay at home and mourn instead of being happy?...Like are you serious right now? When my dog died, I was devastated. But what's better-living life and moving on, or spending your time crying about it all day long? It's Michelle's life; not yours! You can't judge her on her actions when they have nothing to do with anyone! And another point, how in the hell do you know her bunny died that night? Please, show me the proof for that because I would really like to know. Do people stalk her outside of her house and watch her animals from afar? Entertain me.
that's so boring, really, get a real life instead stalking others.
dear phans,
whatever you guys say, that still won't change the fact that Michelle Phan had lied and contradicting herself to get where she is right now.
If I'm obsessing with Michelle Phan, what you guys think ya'll doing here? haha phail phans.
This entry was written long time ago already what made you guys so sure that I'm still stalking? haha oh please, between school, work and social life?pssh
follow your own advices phans, get a life.
kthnxbye
Hey I just wanna say I respect your opinion and contrary to what you may think, I dont think you are a hater :) I know this was written long ago but I felt compelled to reply hahaha. I like michelle. She makes great tutorials and all she wants to do is help everyone recognise their inner beauty and feel better about themselves. I admit, the IQQU thing kinda made me lose faith in her for a while but I got over it. She's a really nice person inside and yeah shes only human, humans make mistakes. Im really sorry to hear you lost hope in her so much that you wrote a post on it. Im sure michelle screwed up, and realises it. But honestly, there is no need to inform people that you lost hope in someone when she inspires so many others. I bet if you were a fan and you saw this, you would feel so bad knowing that your idol did all this. I dont wanna say this, but it feels like those gurugossip sites and that michellephail thing is just embellishing the details and making things worse overall. Dont contribute. I respect your opinion and once again, I dont wanna come off as rude or anything.
Take care pal :))
this is so lame.. that is just a death of a fucking rabbit, why mourn like a family member died? you are so desperate because she is famous and you are not.. HAHAHAHA( EVIL LAUGH)
wow, your pathetic
you enabled the comment moderation because many people are now angry of you Loser, (evil laugh) HAHAHA
i tell ya, you got A LOT of time on your hands
just calm down, stop stalking people, and do something with your life.
you notice, emmaleigh, that you laugh at someone for having a long rant,
have you seen your flipping BLOG?
and whats up with that "i'm not a hater, i'm just an ex-fan"?
well, your a DAMN ANNOYING EX-FAN!
You know what? I agree with this blog post. And I have a life.
I have a boyfriend. I work with a security company that specialises in concerts, so I get to see people like Beyonce and Lady Gaga whilst being paid for it.
I will be graduating from University in 2 days, and I am attending a postgrad course to accomplish my dream of becoming a teacher. See? I've accomplished something.
I don't want to be famous. I don't want to be sponsored by Lancome. I am not jealous of Michelle Phan.
I used to be a huge fan too. I loved her tutorials and thought she had amazing talent. Somebody told me she was a fake and posted a website to me. I thought it was pathetic. I mean, who cares if she lied about a bunny? But then I saw all the other stuff. The IQQU lies and that sort of thing. I realised, no, the bunny isn't important. What is important is that the lie about the bunny is just another lie to add to the pile of lies that Michelle Phan has told over the years.
If you can't see the evidence in front of you, you're a blind minion, simple as that. Yes, I am on GG, but I rarely post in the Michelle Phan section anymore. Mostly because she bores me. Every video is the same boring look, her videos recently have been downright horrible (can you seriously tell me the Mulan look was good?) and I just don't have the time for her anymore.
I used to watch her videos religiously, but it gets to a point when she post a new video that I can look at the screencap and know how she did it. Considering I know next to nothing about make-up, that isn't good for Michelle.
If you want somebody with talent, go look at Manwomanfilm. She has never created a product that has harmed peoples skin and claimed they are FDA approved when the FDA themselves have said they are not. She has never lied to her subscribers. She just makes videos. That's all she does. She doesn't sell products, she doesn't manipulate her fans for fame. She just makes videos. Maybe if Michelle Phan stopped lying and just made some better videos, the ex-phans like me would gain some of our lost respect for her.
Also, this comment took about 3 minutes to type. I bet the above blog post took about 10 minutes to type. That's not stalkerish. she isn't wasting any more of her time than you pathetic fans are by calling her jealous and pathetic.
Also, you guys are the ones who need to grow up. She's not a little girl. She's in University for God's sake. She's done 4 years of a 6 year course, which has to make her in her mid 20s. That isn't a little girl. I'm not a little girl either. I'm 22.
Well done! I completely agree with you. Although I've never been a huge fan, I respected her at one point. It wasn't as disappointing for me since I never worshipped or followed her, but I was more in shock with all her lies and acts. I noticed that Ms. Phan is losing a lot of support with her older fans now, and she only draws in interest to a younger audience such as pre-teens. I don't think Ms. Phan's success and fame would last too long with her reputation.
Also, don't pay attention to her minions. When I read your blogspot, you never once mentioned that you hate her. They always complain that GG members twist and manipulate everything Ms. Phan says, but it seems like they're doing the exact same thing to you. Then again, maybe they just can't read properly. Anyway, pay no attention to them; they always pull the jealousy card because they have nothing better to say.
who gives a fuck if she lied just worry about her make up tutorials and not if she lied about her personal life jesus christ
@ Ayailla
your comment. thank you! ;) and congratulations on your graduation. Having a so-called life these days are underrated isn't it? I mean, I have written this blog post 11 MONTHS AGO! and as far as I remember, I have NOT made it as a hobby to blog or diss or hate on Michelle Phan here. I haven't been on GG for months now because I'm busy living my life. School, work, bf, friends, family & social life. haha oh well, before they pull it on you, let me do the honours, WELCOME TO THE HATERZZZZZZ CLUB! lulz. well, obviously, anyone who doesn't worship the holy ground that MP walks on, is a hater and is jealous of her.
Good luck, babe. ;) it's a different world out there after university. best wishes to you & your bf & to your family. ;)
@ Derosa
haha IKR? oh, well. & it was such a relief to read yours & Ayailla's comments. it could really be tiring to sign on and read the same old crap comments these minions are pulling every time --- the YOU ARE JUST JEALOUS card.
thank you, both! ;)
Get a life, how do you even know that the picture of her in a bikini was her getting baptized? As per usual, it's probably been taken out of context...as for your comments about religion and God, just by writing this blog you're being critical and judgemental of someone that you don't even know, last time I checked, that's pretty un-christian like. Why is it that the most religious people are the worst at seeing their own flaws, and are the worst kind of hypocrites. Also, so what if she's not entirely truthful, if I had somewhat celebrity status, I'd want to keep my life secret and lie about some stuff too just to have a bit of a personal life. I stumbled upon your blog searching for some of her videos, and I have to say, I'm pretty disgusted. Keep your hateful words to yourself, as you're just perpetuating more people into believing things that may or may not be true about someone that they don't even know. I don't why I'm even bothering to writing this comment, but you and all the people on here just pissed me off. Just watch her videos for the sake of learning something new, and for the betterment of yourself as a person
Rachel B
seriously???? HAHAHAHAHAHHA that picture IS Michelle Phan! she said so herself and she's the one who posted that photo online.. oh you some minions are really stupid.
if I wanna learn something "new" or to make my makeup application skills better, trust me honey, MP is the LAST person I'd watch. Because if you're looking for talent and the best, Michelle does NOT have it. ;) she's only good at editing and promoting herself well.
There's Pixiwoo sisters, Petrilude, MissChievous, ManWomanFilm etc etc.
you were right, you shouldn't have wasted your time sharing your senseless comments. you just made a fool out of yourself. ;)
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